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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 21:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the lord he is my savior and my God. All i have is one question... Somebody give me a time when alcohol helped them or a time when wine did more good then bad....weigh the odds here people has alocohol in our society done more to help or to destroy??? Is alcohol potentially more dangerous than it is helpful??? Let the holy spirit and the word guide our decisions as the set apart holy people of God. We should at all times consider our behavior as to wether or not our choices help others to God or not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the lord he is my savior and my God. All i have is one question&#8230; Somebody give me a time when alcohol helped them or a time when wine did more good then bad&#8230;.weigh the odds here people has alocohol in our society done more to help or to destroy??? Is alcohol potentially more dangerous than it is helpful??? Let the holy spirit and the word guide our decisions as the set apart holy people of God. We should at all times consider our behavior as to wether or not our choices help others to God or not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gompers</title>
		<link>http://www.bigisthenewsmall.com/2009/02/02/should-pastors-drink-alcohol-in-public/#comment-10426</link>
		<dc:creator>gompers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when is the noun a sin? When did money become the root of all evil and consuming alcohol become a sin? It&#039;s the LOVE of money that is the root of evil. It&#039;s the lack of self control and being under the influence of something other than the Person of the Holy Spirit that crosses the line to sin. Are we suggesting that the perfect, righteous Son of God committed sin when Jesus had wine? Certainly we wouldn&#039;t dare suggest that Jesus committed sin?Let&#039;s not be so narrow minded as to suggest that the consumption of alcohol-regaurdless of location-is a sin. And when I travel to South Africa to minister there and it&#039;s culturally acceptable to say words deemed as curse words in our culture do I then start to drop f-bombs? No, so let&#039;s not let culture determine what is sin, but let the flawless Words of God make that determination. I too would prefer my pastor to be the same man in public as he is in private.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when is the noun a sin? When did money become the root of all evil and consuming alcohol become a sin? It&#8217;s the LOVE of money that is the root of evil. It&#8217;s the lack of self control and being under the influence of something other than the Person of the Holy Spirit that crosses the line to sin. Are we suggesting that the perfect, righteous Son of God committed sin when Jesus had wine? Certainly we wouldn&#8217;t dare suggest that Jesus committed sin?Let&#8217;s not be so narrow minded as to suggest that the consumption of alcohol-regaurdless of location-is a sin. And when I travel to South Africa to minister there and it&#8217;s culturally acceptable to say words deemed as curse words in our culture do I then start to drop f-bombs? No, so let&#8217;s not let culture determine what is sin, but let the flawless Words of God make that determination. I too would prefer my pastor to be the same man in public as he is in private.</p>
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		<title>By: Amedeo Bianchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amedeo Bianchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a message on Christian Radio about this subject. It&#039;s funny how Pastors and congregation&#039;s, teach such things are sinful. Is it a sin to feel good? If Jesus never sinned, or stayed away from the appearance of evil, would he have turned the water to wine, been partying with the publicans, drank himself? The same people who think alcohol is wrong are the same ones that go out and eat like pigs, horde their money, gossip, lie, cheat, etc. Drunkenness, abuse,or to overdue something is the sin, not the thing you are doing.

Makes me laugh when I see pastors and Christians so boxed up in themselves and busy boxing God in, thinking they are righteous in what they do. They must really have some mental block or something. Even something like Marijuana, God created it and no man should make a law prohibiting something He made to make you feel good. I can see laws against things that are chemically treated and altered to something unnatural and a killer, but that is it.

People make decisions like this based on fear, experience with something bad that they see happened, misinformation, etc. If these people do not believe in Alcohol and feeling good then take away all their Tylenol, aspirin, high blood pressure medicine, Percocet&#039;s, anti-depressants, etc. that make them feel good! They are all prejudice and do not know the truth and that is a bigger stumbling block then anything else!

Come visit my Church when I open, I&#039;ll have a wine cellar with anointed wines, and beer. And I will also go ahead and put my own Cracker Barrel out front to catch the money on the way out to!

Love, Amedeo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a message on Christian Radio about this subject. It&#8217;s funny how Pastors and congregation&#8217;s, teach such things are sinful. Is it a sin to feel good? If Jesus never sinned, or stayed away from the appearance of evil, would he have turned the water to wine, been partying with the publicans, drank himself? The same people who think alcohol is wrong are the same ones that go out and eat like pigs, horde their money, gossip, lie, cheat, etc. Drunkenness, abuse,or to overdue something is the sin, not the thing you are doing.</p>
<p>Makes me laugh when I see pastors and Christians so boxed up in themselves and busy boxing God in, thinking they are righteous in what they do. They must really have some mental block or something. Even something like Marijuana, God created it and no man should make a law prohibiting something He made to make you feel good. I can see laws against things that are chemically treated and altered to something unnatural and a killer, but that is it.</p>
<p>People make decisions like this based on fear, experience with something bad that they see happened, misinformation, etc. If these people do not believe in Alcohol and feeling good then take away all their Tylenol, aspirin, high blood pressure medicine, Percocet&#8217;s, anti-depressants, etc. that make them feel good! They are all prejudice and do not know the truth and that is a bigger stumbling block then anything else!</p>
<p>Come visit my Church when I open, I&#8217;ll have a wine cellar with anointed wines, and beer. And I will also go ahead and put my own Cracker Barrel out front to catch the money on the way out to!</p>
<p>Love, Amedeo</p>
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		<title>By: Joescoffeebuzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joescoffeebuzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 16:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus made wine as his first public miracle.... Nough said!!! (LOL)John 2:1-11 http://ow.ly/1TEXk</description>
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		<title>By: Shepard~..~</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shepard~..~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 00:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public is that big giant place were any and everything can be heard or seen  . Whatever we  perceive might  happen at any given time or day has already happened at some point in time . If you saw your pastor in the local watering hole tossing back drinks.. would you think he was drinking grape juice .Of course not...we are not taught to think that way.. we would think he was getting plastered.If you saw a man running out of a bank with a bag in his hand we would think he robbed it..not trying to return it to someone who just forgot it. In other words we think to much. If someone keeps calling you a donkey turn around and see if you have a tail.
Don&#039;t drink ...if you do don&#039;t get drunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public is that big giant place were any and everything can be heard or seen  . Whatever we  perceive might  happen at any given time or day has already happened at some point in time . If you saw your pastor in the local watering hole tossing back drinks.. would you think he was drinking grape juice .Of course not&#8230;we are not taught to think that way.. we would think he was getting plastered.If you saw a man running out of a bank with a bag in his hand we would think he robbed it..not trying to return it to someone who just forgot it. In other words we think to much. If someone keeps calling you a donkey turn around and see if you have a tail.<br />
Don&#8217;t drink &#8230;if you do don&#8217;t get drunk.</p>
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		<title>By: tsarge5</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Titus 1:7-8 (New King James Version)

7 For a bishop (or leader in the church) must be blameless, as a steward of God, not self-willed, not quick-tempered, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, 8 but hospitable, a lover of what is good, sober-minded, just, holy, self-controlled,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Titus 1:7-8 (New King James Version)</p>
<p>7 For a bishop (or leader in the church) must be blameless, as a steward of God, not self-willed, not quick-tempered, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, 8 but hospitable, a lover of what is good, sober-minded, just, holy, self-controlled,</p>
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		<title>By: Canuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add three things to the mix.

1.) Freedom - &quot;Everything is permissible&quot;--but not everything is beneficial. &quot;Everything is permissible&quot;--but not everything is constructive. 1 Cor 10:23

2.) Purpose &amp; Love - Creation&#039;s purpose is to glorify God. Everything we do should be part of this and done in love. Specific actions and situations may open one up to different responses but remember your purpose. Does each action serve it? Is it done in love to God and others?

3.) Reality - 100,000 U.S. deaths are caused by excessive alcohol consumption each year
***At least once a year, the guidelines for low risk drinking are exceeded by an estimated 74% of male drinkers and 72% of female drinkers aged 21 and older.
***Nearly 14 million Americans meet diagnostic criteria for alcohol use disorders.
***Youth who drink alcohol are 50 times more likely to use cocaine than those who never drink alcohol.

Are Pastors part of the problem or the solution?

BTW there is no Pastor category in the Bible, so maybe you should include church leaders and teachers in this question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add three things to the mix.</p>
<p>1.) Freedom &#8211; &#8220;Everything is permissible&#8221;&#8211;but not everything is beneficial. &#8220;Everything is permissible&#8221;&#8211;but not everything is constructive. 1 Cor 10:23</p>
<p>2.) Purpose &amp; Love &#8211; Creation&#8217;s purpose is to glorify God. Everything we do should be part of this and done in love. Specific actions and situations may open one up to different responses but remember your purpose. Does each action serve it? Is it done in love to God and others?</p>
<p>3.) Reality &#8211; 100,000 U.S. deaths are caused by excessive alcohol consumption each year<br />
***At least once a year, the guidelines for low risk drinking are exceeded by an estimated 74% of male drinkers and 72% of female drinkers aged 21 and older.<br />
***Nearly 14 million Americans meet diagnostic criteria for alcohol use disorders.<br />
***Youth who drink alcohol are 50 times more likely to use cocaine than those who never drink alcohol.</p>
<p>Are Pastors part of the problem or the solution?</p>
<p>BTW there is no Pastor category in the Bible, so maybe you should include church leaders and teachers in this question.</p>
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		<title>By: Brndon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Should a pastor drink in public?&quot; Honestly, I don&#039;t really understand the question.

First, I believe that whatever a pastor does or does not do in his own home should be the same as what he does in public. I&#039;m very opposed to the idea of living two lives (i.e. the church/home life, and the hanging with friends life. The two should be the same for no other reason than integrity).

Second, I see little difference between a pastor or other church leader and any given spirit filled Christian. We are all ambassadors of Christ no matter who signs our paychecks. We should all be held to the same standards.

However, in an attempt to answer the original question, I&#039;d simply look to the example given in Jesus. Prepare to be shocked, but he did drink alcohol. Not just in private but also in public settings. He even supplied the wine for others to drink.

Some of the attitudes here are quite contrary to Jesus&#039;s example. Jesus would never avoid situations with real people just so he could avoid someone misinterpreting his actions for evil or sin. If you read the NT, this actually happens ALL THE TIME. Pharisees constantly attack him for holding an appearance of evil when, in fact, he was totally w/o sin. If you are attempting to appear holy by avoiding all association with anything that could ever possibly be interpreted as evil, then you are aligning yourself more with the legalistic Pharisees than with Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Should a pastor drink in public?&#8221; Honestly, I don&#8217;t really understand the question.</p>
<p>First, I believe that whatever a pastor does or does not do in his own home should be the same as what he does in public. I&#8217;m very opposed to the idea of living two lives (i.e. the church/home life, and the hanging with friends life. The two should be the same for no other reason than integrity).</p>
<p>Second, I see little difference between a pastor or other church leader and any given spirit filled Christian. We are all ambassadors of Christ no matter who signs our paychecks. We should all be held to the same standards.</p>
<p>However, in an attempt to answer the original question, I&#8217;d simply look to the example given in Jesus. Prepare to be shocked, but he did drink alcohol. Not just in private but also in public settings. He even supplied the wine for others to drink.</p>
<p>Some of the attitudes here are quite contrary to Jesus&#8217;s example. Jesus would never avoid situations with real people just so he could avoid someone misinterpreting his actions for evil or sin. If you read the NT, this actually happens ALL THE TIME. Pharisees constantly attack him for holding an appearance of evil when, in fact, he was totally w/o sin. If you are attempting to appear holy by avoiding all association with anything that could ever possibly be interpreted as evil, then you are aligning yourself more with the legalistic Pharisees than with Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: melindadanielle</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a matter of drinking in public, it&#039;s a matter of excessive drinking in public. I was in Atlanta at a venue to see one of my friends bands play with John Mark McMillan(very well know Christian artist) and the pastors from my church were all there(my friend is a pastor&#039;s kid) and all of them had a drink in their hand, and other well-know worship leaders, etc. from the area were there with a drink in their hand. BUT not a single one of them was drunk. If having a glass of wine or a beer when you&#039;re out to dinner with friends/family or having a drink at a show is okay for non-pastoral people then it&#039;s okay for pastors too, just as long as their staying as far away from excess just like everyone else should too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of drinking in public, it&#8217;s a matter of excessive drinking in public. I was in Atlanta at a venue to see one of my friends bands play with John Mark McMillan(very well know Christian artist) and the pastors from my church were all there(my friend is a pastor&#8217;s kid) and all of them had a drink in their hand, and other well-know worship leaders, etc. from the area were there with a drink in their hand. BUT not a single one of them was drunk. If having a glass of wine or a beer when you&#8217;re out to dinner with friends/family or having a drink at a show is okay for non-pastoral people then it&#8217;s okay for pastors too, just as long as their staying as far away from excess just like everyone else should too.</p>
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