I Don't Want To Go To Your Church!

Dear Mr. Church: I wanted to formally let you know that I Don’t Want To Go To Your Church.

I don’t really understand the God thing and your rules make it even more difficult to understand.

I know you say come as you are, but let’s not go too far because you really don’t mean that.  Don’t you really mean come as everyone else in your building is?

Mr. Church: I really don’t understand this God thing and when I come through your doors and try to sing, for some reason the elevator just doesn’t go ”ding” because I just don’t get this whole God thing.

I am out here doing my thing, you know all the stuff you church folks call sin… No matter what I do I just can’t seem to win.

I’m out here doing my own thing and wished I knew of the God whose praises so many people sing; but in my mind the elevator just doesn’t go “ding.”

Dear Mr. Church: I want to find God, but I don’t know where to search, to the best of my knowledge I can find him at your church.  Mr. Church, I know that your people will look at me funny and simply just want my money.  They expect me to dress and act a certain way and they will keep me in your service all day.   They will make a scene if I’m new and beat me up with all the rules until I’m black and blue.

Dear Mr. Church: I Want To Know God, but I Don’t Want To Go To Your Church!

Sincerely,

Non Church Attending Searching Lost Hungry Far From God Guy/Girl

 

~Scott Williams~

  • Back to poetry again I see… good post.

  • I’m happy to say that while there ARE those who probably feel that about our church, there are those who have experienced the absolute opposite. Just ask the former prostitute, the addicts, felons, agnostics & the atheist…

    When we talk in our leadership meetings, it’s usually unanimous, the one thing that we excel at is helping people feel accepted. We’ve heard that from different folks over the past six years. That’s pretty cool.

  • Satan

    Yeah, lifechurch especially sucks.

  • I am sorry that a church, any church does that to people.

    God does say “come as you are,” however He does not say “stay where you are at!”

    People are to come to Him not to a building. The people (ekklesia) are the church, not that man mad rabble of brick and mortar, where I can show off how rich I am by dressing in my designer clothes place.

    There are many of us who seek after God outside the institutionalized “church”

    Keep the faith, find likeminded brothers and sisters to fellowship with and it will be alright. No beating up here, come as you are.

  • Dave Aldrich

    Great poem. Sad truth. So many places called “church” are like that. THE Church is simply all those who believe in (trust in, cling to, rely on) Jesus as their messiah, their savior. No succinct little paragraph here can explain the amazing mystery of this God who became man, who lived and died and rose again. No one likes easy, pat answers. Bible “proof texts” just don’t cut it after a while. The proof I believe comes as we just turn our questions towards Him, asking God who He is. Asking Him if this Jesus is real and if so then please make Him know to me. And then believe that He will answer. And then… get ready to have your eyes wide open.

    May His peace and reality be yours as you seek Him.

  • First of all, WOW! Satan reads this blog?! I laughed when I saw that comment.

    Second, Dave’s comment was worded so well. I love church when the “church” refers to God’s people, the people who follow Jesus. Like, when Paul writes to the church of Galatia, he is writing to all those following Jesus who live in Galatia. I almost always hate church when “church” is defined in the way most people these days define it (as in First Somethingville Community Church)

    (Although I’m sure I WOULD love your church if I ever came to it!)

  • amooyoung

    Great poem! Your posts always amaze me!

  • follower

    “The matter is quite simple. The Bible is very easy to understand. But we Christians are a bunch of scheming swindlers. We pretend to be unable to understand it because we know very well that the minute we understand, we are obliged to act accordingly. Take any words in the New Testament and forget everything except pledging yourself to act accordingly. My God, you will say, if I do that my whole life will be ruined. How would I ever get on in the world? Herein lies the real place of Christian scholarship. Christian scholarship is the Church’s prodigious ivention to defend itself against the Bible, to ensure that we can continue to be good Christians without the bible coming too close. Oh, priceless scholarship, what would we do without you?” Soren Kierkengaard

    The reason I quote this is due to the state of the Western church. I think that if the Church would be a little more radical with the words of Christ we would see people like your “Non Church Attending Searching Lost Hungry Far From God Guy/Girl” actually want to be a part of something more than what they currently see from the church.

    However, the words of Christ have never been popular to the secular world.

  • Hulk

    What a true post! I relate 100% with that!
    I’m really tired of hearing stuff like what rencal said “God does say ‘come as you are,’ however He does not say ‘stay where you are at!'”

    God accepts and loves where you are at 100% of the time. The problem is that in the walls of the church, in the middle of all the numb, like-minded, judgmental people, you will find that they hurl stuff like ‘He doesn’t say stay where you’re at’.

    There’s no compassion or understanding with where people often find themselves stuck! Be honest, life is hard, problems are hard. Problems are not overcome in 5 seconds, they can take years to work through in your life, and sometimes after making progress you still stuff up!

    The church needs people to be honest with where they’re at. The church needs to know how to hear honesty without launching the judgement rocket.

    The church, as it is, does not know how to live honestly. It takes people who are searching for truth and engulfs them in a culture of talk. A culture of people that are mask wearers and fakers.

    Imagine if somebody in “leadership” were to be honest and talk about where they’re at! Do YOU think the church would accept that? If they were truly honest with the problems that plague their life, they would be stood down from leadership.

    So instead of embracing truth and honesty, they are locked away in a lonely closet. They want to change, they want to be accepted for who THEY REALLY ARE, but that can’t be found in the church! They are too busy pretending and judging.

    Faye, your church is just like that. You may be welcoming (an evangelistic technique), but what about being real? Church by definition is like that. There is no escape. Churches are filled with modern day Pharisees. The Pharisees today just litter their talk with WORDS like, grace, forgiveness, Jesus, acceptance, but it is all based on performance, position and recognition.

    I detest this man-made construct. It is hollow. It is the same as any other group out there. There is no difference in your lives; only denial!

    God is nothing like this hell-hole we call church. That’s why I don’t go anymore. Tired of the talk. Couldn’t see any walk.

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  • Hulk,
    I wrote my comment 10 days ago, and did not see your comment until today when Scott shared it. Thank you for sharing your heart!
    I don’t know if you’ve been to my church or not. You seem to think that our welcoming is purely for “get ’em in the door” motives. I’m sure there are those who think that way. I believe I can speak for the leaders, however, we think it’s a way of life and love that is essential — to us and those who venture through our doors.
    We definitely want to help people grow into and in a relationship with Christ. Frankly, I don’t care what you’re involved in, whether you tithe, go to a small group or join the church. I DO care that there are hurts and disappointments in your life — yes, life IS hard. Sometimes it downright sucks. And there’s just no answers for that, even though we like to try to come up with some. My thought is, I’m supposed to love you and welcome you and love you some more. If I see you struggling, I’m supposed to come up alongside you and help you as I can. Sometimes I can tell you I know how you feel because I’ve been there, other times I’ll have to say, I don’t have a clue how you feel, because I haven’t been there, but I’m here to listen and pray and cry and scream and yell with you until we work it through. That’s about as real as I can get.
    Our leaders strive to teach this to the people of our church, some get it some don’t. Some will, some never will. They’re people. Fallible, with faults and in need of the same grace and love you and both have received.
    Those folks I enumerated in my original comment — they keep coming. The former prostitute? She’s still got some habits that aren’t wonderful. The ex-felons catching the van ride, some of them are pretty rough characters, yet they keep coming — I don’t think it’s the coffee or the cookies. Some of the addicts still use. Some of those with eating disorders still suffer with them. Oh, and the atheist? Yeah, he’s still here. He’s never, to my knowledge, agreed that God exists, yet he still comes when his health allows and he is still involved in sharing ideas and working with folks to help out in the community.
    We’re nowhere near perfect. I’ve been known to use my gift of sarcasm at precisely the wrong moment, even appearing brash and uncaring. Some people who come to the building will judge you. No doubt. Some will talk about you — and others. (And when leadership hears about it, we call it out like Matthew 18 says…with a motive of love & restoration) I hope you can find a place where people gather to worship God. I also hope you get to the place where you realize they’re just broken and hurting people, too. Some fake it and pretend they haven’t a care in the world, it’s true. But there’s a place out there for you where you will know it’s safe to let down the barriers and just be you. I’ve found that place for me, and I pray you’ll keep looking.

  • Hey there,

    I know it can be rare but as a pastor with the church I am at….I can be very real with my folks and find nothing but encouragement and love even on the areas I struggle with. I struggle with a porn addiction and have talked about it from time to time in massages when it comes up and have never received any backlash on this honesty. I don’t always know all the answers and don’t pretend that I do. Just walking this path, following the Lord, and I find when you do… lives are changed.

    I know many pastors who live in fear of being found out that they are human but I know many who share an open, real relationship with their church community as well as having that authentic environment for all. I hope you don’t miss out on the latter ones just because you bumped into some that are in the first category.

    Blessings,

    Thomas

  • Hulk

    Thomas, thank you for your honesty. I can hear you and your heart. I tip my hat with great respect.

    There is something about your small honest message. Please stay open like that. You have found something!

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